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UGMENTALCASE  
#21 Posted : Sunday, December 15, 2024 7:43:44 AM(UTC)
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Funny video to watch, then randomly goes to his desktop with some coding and email window?
See they still have the comical numbering, solid_10297418395836152833000271638 and it's the first solid of a new file
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#22 Posted : Sunday, December 15, 2024 5:13:35 PM(UTC)
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I upgraded to SharkCAD 15 Pro and found no errors during my initial tests. Copilot appears to be an integrated web browser with AI support but is as sluggish as the symbol display. Relevant analyses are only possible with a Pro version that isn’t integrated.

My favorite bug, where operations are canceled when using Multiselect and In-Stream Zoom commands, hasn’t been fixed. But I can live with that – the developers apparently love that it doesn’t work properly.

It is allowed to install the software on multiple computers as long as it is used by only one user. Below is a ChatGPT summary of the license terms.
Quote:
General License Terms

License Type:
Personal, non-transferable, non-exclusive license to use the software.
Use on multiple computers is allowed, but only one instance can be active at a time.

Backup:
A single backup copy is permitted, e.g., in case of hardware failure.

Restrictions:
No sharing, sublicensing, modification, reverse engineering, or transfer of the software.
Educational licenses cannot be used for commercial purposes.

Warnings and Limitations

Function Limitations:
The software is designed for professional use and does not replace independent design decisions.
Users are responsible for verifying results and ensuring the accuracy of outputs.

Liability Disclaimer:
Encore is not liable for damages or errors caused by using the software.
All use is at the user’s own risk.

Technical Details and License Activation

License Key:
Activation requires an internet connection.
Limited number of installations allowed.
Misuse can lead to license deactivation.

Data Privacy:
Collected data may be stored outside the user’s country.
Encore may disclose data to comply with legal or security requirements.

Legal Basis and Export Restrictions

Export Control:
Software must comply with U.S. export laws.
No redistribution to unauthorized countries.

Jurisdiction:
Governing law: California, USA.
Legal disputes handled in San Francisco, California.

Support and Warranty

Support:
Free support is provided for 6 months; paid plans are available afterward.

Limited Warranty:
Media (e.g., CDs) are covered against defects for 90 days.
No guarantee of error-free software.

Summary

License for personal/professional use with restrictions.
Educational licenses are not for commercial use.
Activation and adherence to license terms are required.
Liability and warranty are strictly limited.
Export and legal disputes are subject to U.S. laws.

This document governs the use and rights of the software and is binding for all users.
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#23 Posted : Monday, December 16, 2024 10:46:01 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: damhave Go to Quoted Post
Thank you for sharing your experience with upgrading to SharkCAD Pro V15. It’s reassuring to hear that the issue with the 3DConnexion Spacemouse was resolved . I also use SharkCAD Pro with Spacemouse/Space Navigator, so your insights are especially relevant and appreciated.

If you don’t mind, could you share your impressions of which interface bugs have been addressed? Also, were release notes included with the download, or are they available elsewhere? At the moment, my mouse is hovering over the Alibre buy button due to the limited information available about SharkCAD V15.

Thank you again for your helpful feedback!


The last release of V14 on Mac had issues with tools not remembering their last state. Incredibly annoying. This has been fixed. I'm a long time user so not expecting miracles but just happy we got another version and that it feels normal. Alibre is not an option on Mac but I personally fear having to work exclusively in Fusion.
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#24 Posted : Monday, December 16, 2024 5:41:54 PM(UTC)
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That ChatGPT summary of the license terms is inconsistent. If use on multiple computers is allowed, how does that square with only one "backup copy" permitted? The actual license terms with reported real-world experience would be more convincing and persuasive considering the experience I've had with IMSI under its current ownership. The blurb on the website says a "companion copy", available for a discounted price can be had, as it was for TurboCAD 2022. So which of these apply?. Plasticity is permitted on four PCs, Rhino on as many as you like. Why should I settle for this ambiguous mess? ChatGPT is is supposedly generative AI, able to learn and infer from input. How many versions of the story is IMSI putting about?

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#25 Posted : Monday, December 16, 2024 6:38:23 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for all your replies.

After following all the reports about v14 problems, it never quite seemed ready for prime time, so I'v e been coasting along on v12 and (stuck with Monterey). Now for other reasons I need to update my system past Monterey. Tried a couple of virtualization schemes with a Monterey guest; vmWare on Intel (really poor performance) and Virtual Buddy on an M2 Studio (quite promising but some inconveniences especially with a Monterey guest). Then., just as I was giving up on that approach - v15 shipped.

Not having a v14 license I couldn't try the v15 WIP releases so what you've reported here is all I've got to go on.

The present upgrade offer is through tomorrow (Tuesday) and I think I've seen enough to swallow hard and go for it.

However, I am a little perplexed at the apparent PowerPack upgrade pricing.


ViaCad pro -> v15 pro is $199 (before discount)

ViaCad Pro and Powerpack -> V15 Pro and PowerPack is $429 or $230 just for the PowerPack upgrade!


Pro is $550 for a new license, upgrade is $199 (36% of new)

PowerPack is $330 for a new license, upgrade is $230? (70% of new)???

I've dragged PowerPack along for many generations even though I rarely use any of it but If I'm looking at it correctly, this is too much.

Thoughts?

Cheers, Louis

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#26 Posted : Tuesday, December 17, 2024 4:24:29 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Claus2 Go to Quoted Post
The last release of V14 on Mac had issues with tools not remembering their last state. Incredibly annoying. This has been fixed. I'm a long time user so not expecting miracles but just happy we got another version and that it feels normal. Alibre is not an option on Mac but I personally fear having to work exclusively in Fusion.


I thought it was just me seeing this, and it's really annoying, so glad it's fixed in v15, but why isn't there an update to bug fix v14?
I was getting loads of non-manifold errors exporting STEP files into Orca slicer, and it turned out to be the thread tool in Powerpack and me not noticing the interface not holding preferences.
It defaults to "External" even if you do an internal thread first, it doesn't remember, hopefully this is fixed in v15

I've just had to fill in the old threaded holes, re-hole the part and redo the threads, each time selecting "internal"... sigh... and all because the history tree in v14 always seems to get corrupted by undos, and you end up with an ACIS solid creating a dead end to removing features.

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#27 Posted : Tuesday, December 17, 2024 4:33:10 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: a.wieneke Go to Quoted Post
hello,
i'm looking, of anybody bought ViaCad 15 or Shark 15
I'm using Shark 14 and have no idea if Version 15 makes sence.
i make jewellery design in Shark


Hi.

I'm an user of Sharkcad 14. I'm not sure that I will upgrade to V15 for the moment.
I don't remember the previous upgrade plans but it seems very expensive this year: 479$ before the discount...
For the moment I prefer to wait for better discount or decreased price or v16. New functions are not essential to me and AI stuff... I don't care.

Nicolas
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#28 Posted : Tuesday, December 17, 2024 7:32:04 AM(UTC)
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I've upgraded to v15. There are not many improvements but my view is that if I upgrade then I am supporting development and bug fixes. I wouldn't expect fixes to any bugs for v14- that's the way it goes for many products.

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#29 Posted : Tuesday, December 17, 2024 7:49:08 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: murrayagain Go to Quoted Post
That ChatGPT summary of the license terms is inconsistent. If use on multiple computers is allowed, how does that square with only one "backup copy" permitted? The actual license terms with reported real-world experience would be more convincing and persuasive considering the experience I've had with IMSI under its current ownership. The blurb on the website says a "companion copy", available for a discounted price can be had, as it was for TurboCAD 2022. So which of these apply?. Plasticity is permitted on four PCs, Rhino on as many as you like. Why should I settle for this ambiguous mess? ChatGPT is is supposedly generative AI, able to learn and infer from input. How many versions of the story is IMSI putting about?

This is so written in the original license text, which I moved with copy and paste to ChatGPT. I assume ChatGPT did not make this up freely, as it tends to do sometimes.
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#30 Posted : Tuesday, December 17, 2024 12:50:45 PM(UTC)
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I am just curious,
How do you find the metric fasteners in the Ver.15 2d/3d Parts Library.
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#31 Posted : Tuesday, December 17, 2024 12:54:14 PM(UTC)
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There are two situations described in it, they're mutually exclusive. It amounts to nonsense.
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#32 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2024 3:10:08 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Nick R Go to Quoted Post
I've upgraded to v15. There are not many improvements but my view is that if I upgrade then I am supporting development and bug fixes. I wouldn't expect fixes to any bugs for v14- that's the way it goes for many products.

I have to lough loud ;-) I also made all SharkCAD Pro upgrades till v14. And now? No more bug fixes for very old bugs for v14??!! Seriously??!! V15 still no native Apple Silicon and Metal.

For Mac:
Do 2D PDF Export works in v15?
Do 3D PDF Export works in V15?
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#33 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2024 3:13:53 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Claus2 Go to Quoted Post

The last release of V14 on Mac had issues with tools not remembering their last state. Incredibly annoying. This has been fixed. I'm a long time user so not expecting miracles but just happy we got another version and that it feels normal. Alibre is not an option on Mac but I personally fear having to work exclusively in Fusion.


I'm also on Mac, but seriously considering Alibre with Parallels on an M4 Mac mini. A complete non-sense having such a great potential with SharkCAD. But I'm really tired and annoyed. I feel SharCAD is one of the best CAD software, but the reliability is too poor. Alibre seems to be very similar to SharkCADs UI and way of work.

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#34 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2024 12:40:21 PM(UTC)
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No, I would say. Several bugs remain unresolved.
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#35 Posted : Sunday, December 22, 2024 2:40:34 AM(UTC)
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For me, it ended with a "Yes," although I also bought Alibre Expert at the same time to future-proof myself, considering the lack of attention to users, unsolved bugs, and missing release notes in ViaCAD/SharkCAD that have been discussed above.

To be fair, my first impressions (I’ll share more in a few weeks) are that SharkCAD Pro v15 feels relatively stable, and I think it’s more powerful. I decided not to register or enable the pesky AI Copilot—not because I dislike AI (I actually use ChatGPT 1-2 hours a day)—I just don’t want AI poking around on my computer.

Comparing the two, features like the Gripper, Logicursor, and better snaps and better boolean tools (limited boolean with external part in Alibre) make SharkCAD noticeably faster to use. As for v15 vs. v14, I feel like I didn’t get much. The license setup allows one user to install multiple copies but only run one at a time. The new fastener library is ANSI-only, so it’s useless for me since I work in mm.

The most useful additions so far seem to be Select Faces Same Plane, Surface Cover from Points, and maybe the new Layer Sets feature (haven’t tested it yet). The only issues I’ve seen are with the Concept Explorer window—it sometimes doesn’t show, or I have to resize it to make it fill the reserved space on the right (I’m on Win10), and I could not get the verify clearance to work on a cube shell with an internal sphere added with boolean on the vertex of an internal cube shell . Annoying, but not a big deal. One thing that does bother me is how slow the program starts compared to the previous version.

Edited by user Sunday, December 22, 2024 4:09:08 AM(UTC)  | Reason: spelling errors, added more details.

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#36 Posted : Sunday, December 22, 2024 4:24:51 PM(UTC)
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Alibre has all those things for sure, they just work different
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#37 Posted : Sunday, December 22, 2024 7:40:34 PM(UTC)
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The FFS machines I am trying to complete model to sheet view on

Apple Activity Monitor showing SFX 15 running in intel emulation

SFX 15 Mac get info on the app shows it is in intel mode

Hi SharkCAD Pro Users. I have been with Tim Olsen since he rolled out his first products and before that when it was called Velum, then Ashlar Velum, then came Concepts Unlimited and I have been with every upgrade to the present of SharkCAD 15 Pro, Just purchased and run it on a 2021 MacBook Pro, M1 Max chip, 32 GB ram and iTB SSD. Investigating ScharkCAD 15 Pro with Apple activity monitor shows it running in "Intel Hardware mode" with Rosetta 2 emulator.

Also right clicking on the SharkCAD 15 App icon and using "get information" Yep not even universal it is running in "Intel" so it is using the Rosetta 2 emulator and my I-Stat-Menu is only showing the latest and greatest SharkCad 15 using only 1 core at max and then 2 more at less than 10% of capacity.

At the moment I am making a dual form fill and seal machine render to sheet, all the modeling prior to model to sheet was really slowly trudging along but runny with only a couple crashes. Now that I am trying to render the modeled pair of machines to a 3 view sheet just for general dimensional information, It is now more then 2 hours of the spinning blue vortex and it has just changed to the beach ball.

Every mach user out there should be applying the pressure to get a universal version of SharkCAD 15 or the best an Apple silicone version.

How long if ever until an Apple silicone version comes?

When SFX 14 build 1654 was running in the last rev of MacOS before Sonoma, that was still slow on model to sheets and very painful on large IGES assemblies I get for my SolidWorks buddies. SFX 15 is now a torture a brutal torture on importing SolidWorks IGES files, and then saving into SFX, making edits works, but every change is spinning blue vortex like every 30 seconds of work your waiting 30 seconds for the blue vortex to stop before you get control of the mouse back. I watch my SolidWorks buddies manipulate the same files that are 50 to 80 MB in size and even on Intel PC laptops in Windows 11 Pro the performance is virtually instant at teh same thing that I loose 30 minutes an hour waiting for beach balls/

I know Tim Olsen, he is a great man, having been the only true solid-modeling option for Mac in the 1990's and he has stuck with it. The folks at Encore even if they raised the new version price from $500 to $1,000 I would pay it if they were leveraging Apple silicone, to not tell me SFX 15 is running in Rosetta-2 intel emulator.

In addition, Encore needs to do something about importing SolidWorks IGES files, geese it has become a pain in the ass. Even AotoCAD 3D dxf files importing into SFX 15 is torturous. Yes you can convert to STL files which SFX 15 handles but then ally get is a shape of the outside of the assembly and that is useless, interestingly bring in a FSS assembly from SolidWorks is about a 60MB file, converting that to IGES will bump it up to about 120MB, and then when SFX 15 is done the file is a whopping 145MB and I have sent many of these examples to Tim over the decades, we have to get SFX to use Apple Silicone natively.

What about the Windows version of SFX 15, how is it running, if any one would care to try my files and let me know how they work please give me a shout.

Would be nice to get a comment here from anyone at Encore, the Via Cad or SharkCad people.

Please see my attachments to confirm SFX 15 is running in emulation mode and also I have up loaded a screen snap of the 2 FFS machine I am trying to do a model to set on, I have deleted all the layers of all the motors, drives, cams and linkages as I am only trying to give the overall dimensions of the 2 machines sitting side by side. SFX 15 trundled away for about 2 hours in the model to sheet with the blue spinning vortex and then it went beachball and I am screwed. My SolidWorks 3D Experience Maker can make these FFS machine drawings move like lightening as long as their internet connections if like 1TB speed, when ever there internet slows down, they slow down and when your on the road, with y9our laptop I have saved the day with SFX in the old days many times. This reality has disappeared at the moment.

Eager for any replies, Thanks for reading my post.

Lyle
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Originally Posted by: Lyle-III Go to Quoted Post
[url=https://app.screencast.com/Npy0b7TekitEG]When SFX 14 build 1654 was running in the last rev of MacOS before Sonoma, that was still slow on model to sheets and very painful on large IGES assemblies I get for my SolidWorks buddies. SFX 15 is now a torture a brutal torture on importing SolidWorks IGES files

Punch!CAD has always been slow with large files. I can't find a significant change in working speed of v15 on Windows. The issue is the number of objects in a layer. There is a limit below which the software runs smoothly.

Edited by user Monday, December 23, 2024 10:31:45 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#39 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2024 3:17:28 PM(UTC)
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I vote No until all the bugs are fixed on V14

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I'm on SharkCAD Pro, v12. Win 11 native (versus my pre-Oct 22 SharkCAD in Win7, in VirtualBox, running in Windows 7) with ~ 48 GB laptop system RAM, and (need to revisit/possibly correct) 8gb graphics RAM.

I recently had a crash a few nights ago. IIRC, it was while editing a radius while blending a simple proxy pump. Nothing special. Probably 16 curves, 8 surfaces, a bunch of blends. Probably was the result of too many Undonops and random edits.

Also, while trying to mimic a YouTube tutorial for FreeCAD and constraints, I largely achieved it. But, had I not done a lot of Save As steps and bracketed certain revisions, I would not have been able to recover from wacky constraints issues blowing my model apart. Constraints in Shark should allow for point selection. I thought that SharkCAD innthe form of its sibling ViaCAD had a noun-verb and verb-noun tool selection indifference. Since I didn't fully constraint the geometry, I kept seeing radius changes trash my simple model. Constraints are nice, but, for now, I can't make much use in my shop files unless I can see snd use a macro allowing me to create hull stiffening by example geometry and the tool operating in a way not creating dizzying amounts of same-number parts innthe History Tree.

Fortunately, my main working file (vastly huge ship of 182 meter) was not in this instance of Shark. So, I blew off the crash, largely because I learned something by chance than from reading the help PDF.

Until a few nights ago, despite having previously made poor-man's propellers and blades (hub of 4ft, blades making prop 17-18 ft dia) in the previous few years, I didn't know there could be a stark difference in the sequence of and size of selection of curves or edges.

Picking short edges first results in downstream blends having pointy corners, not radial/radiuses corners.

By chance observation, I noticed I kept failing to reproduce rounded corners orwsent in a FreeCAD tutorial.

Due to size of the proxy pump and my errant sizing of the radius, I luckily realized the (default selection) auto select edges/chain select of adjacent edges, the blend tool nicely sometimes does magic.

Esp in cases of decent or clean geometry, geometry not involving haphazardly created Booleans, it spares me having to zoom in to find the right edge nestled among others.

Honestly, sometimes, I'm able to learn to get more out of Shark by watching YouTube vids of stuff made in FreeCAD, then lying to myself "I can do that in under 5 minutes in Shark", then taking 10 to reorganize my thoughts, then ultimately spend 25-30 to reproduce what a presenter shared.


I tested out Model to Sheet and shading (I hardly do, and generally don't care about shading, sometimes think it's overrated by people attracted to shiny things, like glossy magazines have effect on people wanting more than a few informative images), too, and was generally pleased.

Somewhere in that session, I did some Undo ops and trashed the underlying geometry.

I wish that Ctrl-C copies and drag-off copies got their own ID number and could always more consistently be differentiated from their parent. I sometimes get lost in the History Tree, and only rarely in change the order of a curve. So, I suspect doing all sorts of random things maybhave trashed or whacked History in the ankle or kneecap here and there.

I also wish that whether the user selects "Duplicate with History" or "Duplicate as Instance", the geometry creation would cause a new sublayer home for that geometry to reduce the need to OCD differentiate what is what. Further, I wish there was a clone option that acted like a cloner. (If one cloned a person, one would expect organs, bones, and memeoy engrams to come with the clone, not just the skin or husk being deposited onto a new layer, a layer that if innthe wrong branch cannot be simply dragged to there.)

(But, asking for and getting that wishlist item would open the long-standing beg for the Layer Tree in SharkCAD to act like a database and allow nearly complete reorganization powers. If the company doesn't accede, it's probably going to be within 5 years that AI will empower users worldwide to make their own interior table CAD tools, barring some cartel hogging graphics kernels and embargoing domestic and cross-border file and code sharing between users needing to share files. My mental quirks cause an initial arrangement rhat easily and wholly unacceptable layer organization. Between drawings and variants of a work, it is an incredible ask that users map out in advance every last one of hundreds or multiple thousands of layers by function, groups, or presentation.)

(I'm still at times muttering and seething that I can't regex-like hunt for layers and temporarily mask out unrelated errors so I can clone branches along with geometry so a common shape and its underlying structure can be made in timesaving ways. It may be my imagination, but, I could swear that in one version of ViaCAD, before 2014, there was a search bar in the Layer Manager. Am I imagining things? I suppose so.)


It would be nice if, for dummies like myself, Shark would say, "Hey, Butthead, your attempted blend radius os on a scale of 0.01, but your object's real-world edge is on a scale of 0.001..."

Being tired, moving too fast, and jumping between proxy shapes, I failed to realize the scaling or the relative size difference. So, I for 30+ minutes of trial and error increasingly grew frustrated that work successfully achieved barely an hour earlier was blowing up in my face. This was on a proxy pump leas than 6ft long, too time proximate, maybe, to working on a propeller sketch, where the propeller is of an 18 ft diameter, so it has far bigger blends needed, and proximate to another shape just randomly drawn without regard to its real-world scale/size.

It was my fault, but a few clues or glowing edge hints such as attempted radius wildly disproportionate to existing geometry might have helped.

Once I realized I was the problem, I was humming along.

But, the crash I ultimately had came from either too many Undo ops, or a drag tool op.

As for drag or copy-paste crashes in my vastly huger file, those are few and in-between, but can be traumatizing when they do happen.

See separate post, as I'm not on either 14 or 15, whether release or trial/beta.
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damhave on 12/25/2024(UTC)
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