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List of features across PunchCAD range? (#2259)
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ttrw  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, May 5, 2009 5:04:38 PM(UTC)
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Can someone kindly point me in the direction of a chart that outlines the differences in the different Punch CAD packages out there (VC/Shark range?)

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, May 6, 2009 2:27:15 AM(UTC)
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no worries. Novedge provides a list :)
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, May 6, 2009 8:13:47 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ttrw Go to Quoted Post
... Novedge provides a list


Punch! [URL="http://www.punchcad.com/products/sharkfx.htm"]too[/URL] => Product Comparison Matrix *huh*

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ttrw  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, May 6, 2009 11:06:42 AM(UTC)
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Ah gotcha Norbert. I new I'd seen it somewhere :o word overload again! :o
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:18:44 AM(UTC)
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I have just noticed that the "Product Comparison Matrix" for VC pro as changed, if you click that link it actually gives you a "Competitive Product Matrix" against Autocad LT and 2009.
Should the name of the link not show that?

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ttrw  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:55:08 AM(UTC)
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Steve, I think that's yet another link, because I've come across both too.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:59:32 AM(UTC)
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Hmm : (

.. copyright 2007

.. those web guys are really onto it
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:58:54 AM(UTC)
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Hmm : (

.. copyright 2007

.. those web guys are really onto it


:rolleyes:

:D :D
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#9 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 2:14:44 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: posh.de Go to Quoted Post
Punch! [URL="http://www.punchcad.com/products/sharkfx.htm"]too[/URL] => Product Comparison Matrix *huh*

N.


Would this be an accurate summary of the comparison matrix?

ViaCAD 2D: Basic 2D drafting program.
ViaCAD 2D/3D: Adds basic 3D modeling.
ViaCAD Pro: Adds a lot more 3D modeling tools.
Shark LT: Minimal but important additions for an enterprise environment.
Shark: Adds parametrics (and a few other features).
Shark FX: Adds the photorealistic renderer.

A different thread here implied another change: ViaCAD can only be installed/activated/licensed on a single computer at a time. Shark can be ready to use on multiple computers as long as only one copy is executing at a time. In other words, Shark could be installed on a desktop for office use and a laptop for field use. ViaCAD can't. Is this correct?
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#10 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 3:31:40 AM(UTC)
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yep. that is correct.

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#11 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 5:29:47 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: laura* Go to Quoted Post
Shark LT: Minimal but important additions for an enterprise environment.

Shark LTs precise 2D drawing derivation of the model resp. section cut instead of the polylines VC creates could be handy even for non-commercials.

Originally Posted by: laura* Go to Quoted Post
Shark can be ready to use on multiple computers as long as only one copy is executing at a time.

as I understood on max. 2 concurrent systems only, which does cover your described environment.

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#12 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 9:17:54 AM(UTC)
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FX adds CATIA and ProE exchange and some capping and lofting tweaks above Shark, as well as the rendering. $500 seems a good price for those.
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#13 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 12:51:15 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: zumer Go to Quoted Post
FX adds CATIA and ProE exchange and some capping and lofting tweaks above Shark,
I was unaware of that. Have you got info on what the "capping and lofting tweaks" are?


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as well as the rendering. $500 seems a good price for those.
IMHO, the render engine requires a serious update, which I think they are doing for V6. As for it being a good price, well, it can be, when the product can be purchased a lot cheaper (by almost $700) from a 3rd party vendor
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#14 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 1:02:50 PM(UTC)
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Woah! That's 700!! (about 500 off what it is from CSS). Is that price legal??
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#15 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 1:42:19 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ttrw Go to Quoted Post
Woah! That's 700!! (about 500 off what it is from CSS). Is that price legal??
There are lots of places selling Shark /VC etc at much lower prices then here at punch, such as at that website I linked to, you can get shark LT for $200 (which is cheaper then my upgrading from VC pro to Shark LT if purchased from Punch).

I mentioned here my curiosity concerning the price charged by punch compared to 3rd party vendors.

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#16 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 2:40:37 PM(UTC)
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I'm almost speechless.

I'm also somewhat annoyed, especially, as many of these offers seem to be in America only. FWIW, Amazon UK is utter crap, especially when you compare it to its US counterpart.

Steve, I'm extremely grateful for sharing this info with us. Tim, I'd be most interested to hear you thoughts on this as well.
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#17 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 5:56:28 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Steve.M Go to Quoted Post
There are lots of places selling Shark /VC etc at much lower prices then here at punch, such as at that website I linked to, you can get shark LT for $200 (which is cheaper then my upgrading from VC pro to Shark LT if purchased from Punch).


Back when I was in the software industry and privy to the pricing practices (20+ years ago), a local computer store would sell product at 100% of MSRP. The store would get the product from a distributor (often Ingram Micro) at 60% of MSRP. The distributor would in turn have paid the publisher 40% of MSRP. If you can find a "store" that is willing to earn very little per sale...

Originally Posted by: zumer Go to Quoted Post
FX adds CATIA and ProE exchange and some capping and lofting tweaks above Shark, as well as the rendering. $500 seems a good price for those.


The data sheets say that the extra tweaks and CATIA and ProE exchange first show up in Shark (ie LT doesn't have them). Is the data sheet wrong?
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:19:16 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Steve.M Go to Quoted Post
Have you got info on what the "capping and lofting tweaks" are?


I was wrong about it only being FX, the capping and lofting tweaks are guides, shared with Shark. CATIA and ProE translators too.
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:13:36 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: zumer Go to Quoted Post
I was wrong about it only being FX, the capping and lofting tweaks are guides, shared with Shark. CATIA and ProE translators too.


I thought so.
The "FX" is just to show added rendering/walk through animation.

It will be interesting to see what updates are made in that area. As it is, it is years behind most renderer's.
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:43:29 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: laura* Go to Quoted Post
Back when I was in the software industry and privy to the pricing practices (20+ years ago), a local computer store would sell product at 100% of MSRP. The store would get the product from a distributor (often Ingram Micro) at 60% of MSRP. The distributor would in turn have paid the publisher 40% of MSRP. If you can find a "store" that is willing to earn very little per sale...


Actually when I think about it, this has got to have more to do with SFX just not selling very well. We already know just how terrible Punch Software's marketing dept is? I suppose as long as Tim can still code, and Nick is still punching numbers into his Blackberry, it doesn't really matter that much? :rolleyes:
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