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jlm  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, June 11, 2024 4:01:59 AM(UTC)
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Hi Forum members,

Am I the only one to see that ?

Just a simple case to show the fragility of the history tree :
- copy and paste a few solids to a new layer
- modify one of the solids : fillets
- boolean add or subtract all the solids
- remove the fillets features
—> History gets broken

JL
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#2 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2024 12:01:53 PM(UTC)
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Yes, the history tree isn't the most stable thing. The best things to do are avoiding booleans (if possible) and save incrementally. (You might wanna look at a blog post I made a few years ago: https://cadnstuff.net/boolean-tools-in-viacad/)

Unfortunately there hasn't been much improvement in that regard in the last few years. All you can do is getting used to it or switch to another CAD software.

In my opinion, a buggy history tree is still better than no history tree at all.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2024 9:40:22 AM(UTC)
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BTW How stable is the history tree in other CAD programs?

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#4 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2024 2:51:48 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: damhave Go to Quoted Post
BTW How stable is the history tree in other CAD programs?

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Definitely way more stable. But even in CAD software like Solidworks or Inventor you'll be able to break your feature tree (or at leat parts of it), if you have a messy workflow.
BTW, If you google for "resilient cad modeling" you'll find a lot of information and tutorials on how to bullet-proof your cad history.
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jlm  
#5 Posted : Friday, July 12, 2024 3:39:40 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jlm Go to Quoted Post


Just a simple case to show the fragility of the history tree :
- copy and paste a few solids to a new layer
- modify one of the solids : fillets
- boolean add or subtract all the solids
- remove the fillets features
—> History gets broken

JL


I just tried beta 1710.

My best chainsaw couldn't put the history tree down.

PROBLEM SOLVED !

Thanks Tim !
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