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L. Banasky  
#21 Posted : Saturday, June 13, 2026 3:16:59 PM(UTC)
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Hi Luis,
Do you still have Ver12. on your computer or another computer?
On my PC Ver12. will open Ver14. files, which is strange, also shares the same shortcuts etc.
Maybe give that a try.
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#22 Posted : Sunday, June 14, 2026 2:41:20 AM(UTC)
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Hi,

Today I did send a mail to sales@imsidesign.com
Not for me, just to see what's happening...:-)

Dear sirs,

I would like to buy a new computer, and I am wondering if I can re-install my Sharkcad12 software and the Sharkcad14 Pro upgrade using the accompanying keys without problems?
If there are some special handlings for it please let me know.


Kind regards,

If I get an answer I will let you know.

Edited by user Sunday, June 14, 2026 2:44:20 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#23 Posted : Sunday, June 14, 2026 4:43:20 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: lgrijalva Go to Quoted Post
Than could be a way to use my old license? I am affraid that IMSI will try to charge even more if on trying to validate that oldonwy (Think the oldest one I have is from Shark FX v5)

And Actually, if I try to install in another platform os or computer I will give them arguments to claim that is actual a support issue due to migration hardware or platform cahange or whatever (Of course I will not agree whit this either)

But in my case, I am trying to validate the same installed version on the same computer on the same version of OS that was already working on, and suddenly that day won't work and ask for license validation again, this should't be a support issue, validation process should work seamlessly.

Now I am suspicious about that actually is not really a fail of validation system, is just faking the fail (unless the system bans serial keys due to purchase dates, that is a practice that must be be ilegal) to force you to ask for support. becase both DRM system (Online and offline) are not returning any feed back, I mean, no wariness as "your license is out of automate service now" or that one that use to be "your already use the validation available number for you license" or any other.

So I am still stucked on same status

No answer form legal department

No news from Todd

My license still hijacked, and me exploring and decide which will be my new working software for design and work too

Thanks for your collaboration and help my friends

Luis G
Test the activation on another computer or in VMware. Using different software not only costs more money, it also takes a lot of learning. I tried to reach Tim Olson by email — no response. It seems he is in the Bahamas.

Edited by user Sunday, June 14, 2026 4:45:11 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#24 Posted : Sunday, June 14, 2026 9:20:46 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: lgrijalva Go to Quoted Post


becase both DRM system


Luis G



Speaking of DRM, I recently read that DRM has been found to be the cause of some failed 911 emergency calls. Not sure if it's USA-specific or of the 911 also applies to 119 in Asia and Europe.

It would be a relief of your issues are related to a flaw in DRM and not some management of financial action.


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MPSchmied  
#25 Posted : Sunday, June 14, 2026 10:23:00 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ZeroLengthCurve Go to Quoted Post
Speaking of DRM, I recently read that DRM has been found to be the cause of some failed 911 emergency calls. Not sure if it's USA-specific or of the 911 lso applies to 119 in Asia and Europe. It would be a relief of your issues are related to a flaw in DRM and not some management of financial action.
No, the registration process has nothing to do with DRM. It requires neither digital rights management hardware nor related software.

Edited by user Sunday, June 14, 2026 10:26:01 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#26 Posted : Sunday, June 14, 2026 10:15:42 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: MPSchmied Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: ZeroLengthCurve Go to Quoted Post
Speaking of DRM, I recently read that DRM has been found to be the cause of some failed 911 emergency calls. Not sure if it's USA-specific or of the 911 lso applies to 119 in Asia and Europe. It would be a relief of your issues are related to a flaw in DRM and not some management of financial action.
No, the registration process has nothing to do with DRM. It requires neither digital rights management hardware nor related software.


Hello

Not sure if I am understanding, Registration process for shark it seems to use DRM system as validation to activate the license, both cases, the automatic online connects to a server managed license an is called DRM, an the offline process to validate, give instruction to connect to webadres drm.imsidesign.com (that redirects to https://encore.cloudflar...login/drm.imsidesign.com), you can notice this if yo try to do an offline validation if when your computer does not have internet access (I tried this when automatic validation doesn't work) and, it doesn't work also (I try on a mobile phone for example an other computer, tried both, none of them works), it supposes to return a code by email that you write on the site and gives access to page were yo write an installation code ant it gives you back an activation code, but that mail never come (and no error o warning about anything as well)

This are the mains screens for that process:

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#27 Posted : Monday, June 15, 2026 3:29:29 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: lgrijalva Go to Quoted Post
but that mail never come
Are you sure that you have completely disabled all your spam filters, or, if you do not have spam deleted from the server, that you have checked your spam folders?

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#28 Posted : Monday, June 15, 2026 10:22:29 AM(UTC)
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----------NEWS FROM TODD BUT NO NEWS---------------

Hi Theo,

You would not need to install the V12 and then install the v14 upgrade over it. You could simply install the V14 as it will install as a stand alone program.

In saying that, however.
Unfortunately, With the date of your purchase of the v14, the maintenance and support period has expired. Programs come with a free year of Maintenance and support where we can supply you with download links and update keys for you.

I have two options for you. First, I can offer you our full upgrade discount pricing to the current v16 product, which will not only renew your maintenance and support services but move you up to the current version with all its updates, new features and tool enhancements. The cost of this upgrade is $699.99USD and you can use the link below to do so and change the upgrade from menu to SharkCAD/SharkCAD Pro <5yrs

​https://www.punchcad.com/sharkcad-pro-upgrade

The second option is to renew your Maintenance and support plan for a year. This is a good option if you do not want to upgrade, as it will allow us to provide you with links and maintain your key for another year.

Below is the full explanation of the Maintenance and support package

Ensure Continuous Excellence with Our Maintenance & Support Renewal
We understand the importance of keeping your products running smoothly and efficiently. Our Maintenance & Support plans are designed to provide you with the peace of mind that comes from knowing you have access to the latest patches and dedicated technical support.
Why Renew Your Maintenance & Support Plan?

Continuous Access to Technical Support Our expert support team is always ready to assist you with any technical issues or questions you may have. With a renewed plan, you can ensure that your work is never interrupted and that you always have the help you need.
Software and Maintenance Patches Stay ahead of the curve with the latest software updates and maintenance patches. These updates are crucial for keeping your software secure, efficient, and compatible with the latest technologies.
Peace of Mind Renewing your Maintenance & Support plan means you can focus on your projects without worrying about potential software issues. Enjoy the confidence that comes with knowing you have ongoing support and maintenance patches.

Our Maintenance & Support Policy

Validity: Maintenance & Support plans are valid for one year from the date of purchase and can be extended annually.
Coverage: These plans provide access to Technical Support and Software and Maintenance Patches.
Renewal: Maintenance & Support Renewal is available for versions up to 5 years old.


The cost for this is 25% of the retail cost of the current version or $499.99 for a year of Maintenance and Support. I would be happy to explain how to renew your support plan if you choose this option

Todd - Sales Manager
Punch Software | Customer Service
www.punchcad.com | www.punchsoftware.com
On Sun, 14 Jun at 1:54 AM , Theo <info@................nl> wrote:

Dear sirs,

I would like to buy a new computer, and I am wondering if I can re-install my Sharkcad12 software and the Sharkcad14 upgrade using the accompanying keys without problems?
If there are some special handlings for it please let me know.


Kind regards, Theo

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Edited by user Tuesday, June 16, 2026 12:20:16 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#29 Posted : Monday, June 15, 2026 11:28:11 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: MPSchmied Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: lgrijalva Go to Quoted Post
but that mail never come
Are you sure that you have completely disabled all your spam filters, or, if you do not have spam deleted from the server, that you have checked your spam folders?



Yes, as well as checking the spam folder just in case (several times), but none mail has arrived form the DRM server

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lgrijalva  
#30 Posted : Monday, June 15, 2026 1:28:42 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Theo5715 Go to Quoted Post
----------NEWS FROM TODD BUT NO NEWS---------------

Hi Theo,

You would not need to install the V12 and then install the v14 upgrade over it. You could simply install the V14 as it will install as a stand alone program.

In saying that, however.
Unfortunately, With the date of your purchase of the v14, the maintenance and support period has expired. Programs come with a free year of Maintenance and support where we can supply you with download links and update keys for you. .....

punchsoftware powered by Freshworks 65460:917572



Theo

Thanks for testing this

Actually it seems as almost an automated answer reply, the text I received on my first request is very similar to this one you Get

Answer you get from Todd confirms that IMSI has converted da license hijack practice as financial strategy and the Todd's answer completely confirms my worst fears. This is not an isolated technical glitch; it is a calculated, systematic corporate policy to hijack our assets.

Look closely at Todd’s response. He explicitly states that paying the $499 maintenance fee is required to “maintain your key for another year.” Let that sink in.

By definition, a perpetual license means the key belongs to the user indefinitely. If IMSI requires an annual ransom just to 'maintain' the validity of a key you already paid for, it is no longer a perpetual license—it is a forced subscription. They are intentionally weaponizing their DRM infrastructure and withholding activation keys to extract recurring revenue from loyal, long-time users.

This is text-book extortion of consumer rights. I have already escalated Todd and Syed's contractually non-compliant responses to their Legal Department, and I will be forwarding this exact thread as evidence to the FTC and the California Attorney General's Consumer Protection Division. We bought a product, not a ticket to be repeatedly forced to pay.

So my dear fellow, if for some reason yo have a hard drive crash, or hardware malfunction and you need to do any repair (it can even be an OS update with som incompatibility), be prepared to be force to either pay for an upgrade or a maintenance contract so you can be able to validate your legit license.

Honestly IMHO, this practice is extremely abusive, In may case, I did not change hardware, not upgrade hardware, not hardware crash, not even an upgrade or update OS, the only thing that may be related to this deactivation issue is a reset of NVRAM (as I said before, very common practice on MacOS on Intel based, to optimize and fix som preferences an permissions).

Unfortunately for me, this is not just a bad experience with IMSI's policies; it has directly disrupted my workflow, causing financial impacts that far exceed the cost of either option they offered me. However, giving in to this abusive strategy feels completely wrong. As a matter of principle, I would rather invest my time and money into a different software alternative than validate these practices—which, I repeat, are shockingly abusive. I have never encountered anything like this before.

Luis G

Edited by user Monday, June 15, 2026 3:45:02 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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L. Banasky  
#31 Posted : Monday, June 15, 2026 2:24:34 PM(UTC)
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Perpetual, doesn't really mean perpetual. A user should be given a "dongle", which I personally despise, with the "perpetual license".
Or a code to transfer to another computer without paying a ransom each time you update your hardware or OS.
Just my $.02, I went through that crap with the dongle that would only work plugged into the motherboard, not using an AB switch, had to install another board for the printer, years ago with Vellum3D or Cobalt, can't and don't want to remember.
Blood pressure is going up just reading these posts.
Larry

Edited by user Monday, June 15, 2026 2:34:02 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#32 Posted : Monday, June 15, 2026 7:52:58 PM(UTC)
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Agreed with you Larry, Thanks

is this a recent situation?, cause I search the forum for similar case and just find a thread from bbuxons member that is from just 6 months ago, here it is https://forum.punchcad.c...ts&t=11226#post43443
And also here: https://forum.punchcad.c...ts&m=43414#post43414

So, seems that this practice just starting, hope that complains about it drive IMSI to rethink about this.

@bbuxon please tell us what happened? do you have a positive answer for this?

Luis G

Edited by user Monday, June 15, 2026 8:15:42 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#33 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2026 12:32:33 AM(UTC)
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@Luis

If you like to switch to another CAD program you can use my PC and my SharkCAD14Pro by using AnyDesk or TeamViewer or so to convert important files to a new extension, STEP or whatever.
I don't know which country you are from, I'm from the Netherlands, you also can come here with your files.
Just let me know so your work isn't gone...

Regard, Theo

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Thank's Theo!! you are very kind!

I am in Mexico, hope some time have the opportunity to visit your country, I know is beautiful!

Fortunately got a friend here in my city that have have and use shark (actually I introduce him to this platform about 18 years ago, he's also disappointed with punchcad due to this matter) I think will spend a couple of weeks exporting to steps files to open on other software, I am still exploring which one, I think will buy a license for plasticity and upgrade my Moi3D lincense, but also thinking about rhino as a choice. all o them offer MAC platform

I can't help feeling sad about this situation, I been using shark since V5 (before that was trying cobalt that drive me to concepts Unlimited and finally chose shark as my favorite)

Thanks for your support my friends!, will update any news about this.

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Thank's Theo!! you are very kind!

I am in Mexico, hope some time have the opportunity to visit your country, I know is beautiful!

Fortunately got a friend here in my city that have have and use shark (actually I introduce him to this platform about 18 years ago, he's also disappointed with punchcad due to this matter) I think will spend a couple of weeks exporting to steps files to open on other software, I am still exploring which one, I think will buy a license for plasticity and upgrade my Moi3D lincense, but also thinking about rhino as a choice. all o them offer MAC platform

I can't help feeling sad about this situation, I been using shark since V5 (before that was trying cobalt that drive me to concepts Unlimited and finally chose shark as my favorite)

Thanks for your support my friends!, will update any news about this.

Luis G

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#36 Posted : Wednesday, June 17, 2026 7:03:54 AM(UTC)
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Are you sure you have a lifetime license? If so, you can take legal action against IMSI/Punch!/Encore/CADSoft Solutions Inc.. Here is the research from ChatGPT Pro, together with my personalized CAD GPT.
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Assessment: SharkCAD Pro 14 Lifetime / Perpetual License Issue

Summary upfront

Yes: for SharkCAD Pro 14 there apparently were both perpetual / lifetime licenses and time-limited annual / subscription licenses.

An expired maintenance or support period is not the same thing as the expiration of a Lifetime / Permanent license. If the user actually purchased a SharkCAD Pro 14 Lifetime / Permanent License, then the demand for a USD 500 service fee merely to reactivate or continue using the existing license appears legally questionable.

The chances of success in a legal dispute depend mainly on three pieces of evidence:


  • the invoice or order page showing “Lifetime”, “Permanent License”, or similar wording;
  • the EULA that applied at the time of purchase / installation;
  • proof that there was no license transfer, hardware abuse, multiple activation abuse, or relevant breach of the license terms.


Without those documents, no reliable legal success percentage can be given.

1. Were time-limited licenses available when version 14 was released?

Yes. SharkCAD v14 was publicly available or at least publicly discussed in the upgrade channel by April 18, 2023. The PunchCAD forum contains discussion about v14 and upgrades to SharkCAD 14 Pro.

Source:
https://forum.punchcad.com/defau...aspx?g=posts&t=10926

An official Encore / PunchCAD v14 product page for SharkCAD Pro v14 listed two different licensing models:


  • Permanent License with wording similar to “Download once and own it forever”
  • Annual Subscriptions


That strongly indicates that time-limited annual licenses and permanent licenses were separate license types, not merely different support states of the same license.

Source:
https://www.encore.com/punch-sha...m-any-viacad-pro-version

Additional reseller pages also show separate SharkCAD 14 Pro options such as Lifetime and annual license. For example, a Swiss Blitzhandel24 page listed “SharkCAD 14 Pro Windows Lifetime” with the duration described as permanently valid.

Source:
https://blitzhandel24.ch/sharkcad-14-pro-windows-lifetime

Interim conclusion: If the user purchased a Lifetime / Permanent version, the expiration of support does not automatically justify disabling the actual right to use the software.

2. What does PunchCAD currently say about perpetual licenses, term licenses, and maintenance?

The current official PunchCAD licensing language also separates license duration from maintenance.

A Standalone / Perpetual License is described as a one-time purchase, tied to a specific machine, usable indefinitely on supported systems, and including 12 months of maintenance and support.

A Term License, by contrast, runs for one year and includes updates / upgrades during the active term.

Source:
https://www.punchcad.com/sharkcad

This distinction is important. The phrase “12 months maintenance & support” does not automatically mean “12 months right of use.” Maintenance may include support, patches, downloads, updates, or help with transfers. That is legally different from the core right to continue using the already purchased version.

The older German Shark FX / LT manual also shows that Shark products historically used serial numbers, registration keys, authorization codes, and a Node ID activation mechanism. That proves the existence of an activation system, although it does not by itself define the SharkCAD v14 EULA.

3. The specific forum case

The described case is publicly visible in the PunchCAD forum.

The user reports that SharkCAD Pro v14 suddenly required activation again. Online activation did not work, and offline activation failed with “401 Unauthorized” or produced no usable response.

Source:
https://forum.punchcad.com/defau...aspx?g=posts&t=11262

Later, the user writes that support told him his support period had expired and that he would have to purchase either an upgrade or renewed maintenance / support. The user, however, explicitly refers to a perpetual license and argues that activation of the existing version should still work.

A particularly relevant forum post quotes a reply from “Todd – Sales Manager, Punch Software | Customer Service.” In that reply, the user is allegedly told that because he needs help registering an older version, he must either buy a Support Policy for USD 499 or upgrade to v16 for USD 699. For legal questions, he is referred to Legal@imsidesign.com.

Source:
https://forum.punchcad.com/defau...aspx?g=posts&t=11262

Another user reports being told that SharkCAD v14 can be installed “stand alone,” but that the maintenance / support period has expired. The maintenance and support policy is described as valid for one year and as including technical support, software, and maintenance patches. Renewals are described as available for versions up to five years old, costing either 25% of retail price or USD 499.99 per year.

Source:
https://forum.punchcad.com/defau...osts&p=2&t=11262

This appears legally problematic if support is not merely being refused, but if use of an already purchased perpetual license is being effectively blocked.

4. Possible “back doors” in the PunchCAD Terms

Important distinction: the visible PunchCAD “Terms of Use” mostly concern use of the website. They expressly state that downloaded software is governed by the relevant EULA.

Therefore, the key issue is probably not the website Terms of Use, but the SharkCAD Pro 14 EULA that was accepted during purchase / installation.

Source:
https://www.punchcad.com/terms-of-use

Nevertheless, the visible Terms contain several possible risk points:


  • EULA priority: Punch / Encore may argue that the software EULA, not the website terms, controls the case.
  • Modification of terms: The website terms may be changed, but later website changes usually cannot retroactively destroy an already purchased perpetual license.
  • Disclaimers and liability limits: These may make damages claims harder, especially for indirect or consequential losses.
  • Termination of website / service access: Encore may reserve rights concerning website or related services, but an activation infrastructure required for use of a sold perpetual license is a different legal issue.
  • California law / Santa Clara venue: This can make litigation expensive and inconvenient, although consumer or reseller cases in Europe may be treated differently.


The strongest “back door” is therefore not a clear clause saying “Lifetime expires after one year.” Rather, it is the combination of:


  • node-locked activation;
  • activation servers;
  • maintenance / support separation;
  • liability limitations;
  • California venue language.


The website Terms of Use alone do not appear to provide a clean justification for disabling a Permanent License after support expires.

5. Weak point for the user: operating system and node lock

A real argument for Punch / IMSI could be the phrase “supported systems”.

The current licensing language says that a Perpetual License may be used indefinitely on supported systems.

Source:
https://www.punchcad.com/sharkcad

The v14 documentation lists older system requirements. For Mac, for example, the v14 installation documentation refers to macOS 10.10 through 10.14 “or higher,” which does not necessarily guarantee indefinite compatibility with much later operating systems.

Source:
https://docs.imsidesign.com/proj...tarted/Installation.html

However, in the concrete forum case, the user says it was the same computer, same installation, and same environment. The software had previously been activated and then suddenly reverted to an unactivated state.

If true, that looks more like a license server / validation problem than an ordinary “old operating system no longer supported” issue.

6. Assessment of litigation prospects

Claim for reactivation / declaration of continued license rights

The chances are relatively good if the user has the following evidence:


  1. invoice or order confirmation showing “Lifetime”, “Permanent License”, “own it forever”, or similar wording;
  2. serial number / registration key / license key for SharkCAD Pro 14;
  3. proof that the license had previously been activated on this exact machine;
  4. proof that there was no license transfer, multiple-use abuse, or EULA breach;
  5. no clear and prominent v14 EULA clause stating that reactivation / validation after maintenance expiration becomes chargeable.


Under those circumstances, the best legal claim would probably not be a large damages claim, but a claim for:


  • contract performance;
  • reactivation;
  • a working activation code;
  • or a declaration that the Lifetime / Permanent license remains valid.


Practical estimate: medium to good prospects for reactivation or settlement, roughly 55–75%, provided the documentation is clean and the license really is a Lifetime / Permanent License.

This is not a legal guarantee. It is a risk assessment based on publicly visible information.

Claim for damages

Damages are much weaker.

The Terms of Use contain broad liability limitations and exclusions for indirect or consequential damages. Such clauses are not always unbeatable, but they make large damages claims harder.

Source:
https://www.punchcad.com/terms-of-use

For lost work, lost contracts, business interruption, or consequential damages, I would estimate the chances as low to medium, around 20–35%, unless the user has very strong proof.

The stronger legal lever is reactivation of the license or refund / reimbursement of a forced service fee.

Economic practicality of a lawsuit

Because the amount in dispute is around USD 499–699, a full civil lawsuit in the United States may be economically unattractive.

A more practical escalation path would be:


  1. formal written demand to Legal@imsidesign.com;
  2. complaint to the reseller / dealer, if the license was bought through one;
  3. consumer protection complaint;
  4. small claims court or local action against the seller;
  5. only after that, larger litigation.


If the license was bought from an EU or German reseller as a “Lifetime” license, a claim against the seller may be more practical than a claim against IMSI / Encore in the United States, because the advertising statement “permanently valid” may be directly relevant under sales law.

7. Best argument against Punch / IMSI

The user should not argue:

“I want free support.”

The user should argue:

Quote:

I am not requesting technical support, updates, upgrades, or maintenance services. I am requesting only the reactivation or restoration of usability of my already paid SharkCAD Pro 14 Permanent / Lifetime License on the originally activated machine.

Please identify the specific EULA clause that states that activation of an existing Permanent / Lifetime License becomes chargeable after maintenance has expired.


This targets the central weakness: PunchCAD’s own licensing language distinguishes between Perpetual License and Maintenance & Support.

If the license is perpetual, then expiration of maintenance should not, without a clear contractual basis, lead to the practical deactivation of the software.

Source:
https://www.encore.com/punch-sha...m-any-viacad-pro-version

8. Suggested next step

Before suing, I would send a short, evidence-based formal letter:

Quote:

Dear Sir or Madam,

I own a SharkCAD Pro 14 Permanent / Lifetime License, purchased on [date], license / serial number [number].

The software was activated on the same computer and now requests activation again despite no license transfer or unauthorized multiple use. Online and offline activation fail.

I am not requesting maintenance services, updates, upgrades, or technical support. I am requesting only restoration of usability of my already paid perpetual license.

Please provide, within 10 business days, either a working activation code or server-side reactivation.

If you refuse, please identify the specific EULA clause stating that activation of an existing Permanent / Lifetime License after expiration of maintenance is only available upon payment of USD 499.

Please also preserve all license server logs, activation logs, account records, and correspondence relating to this serial number.

Sincerely,
[name]


Overall conclusion

Disabling a genuine Lifetime / Permanent License merely because maintenance has expired, and then demanding USD 499 for reactivation, appears weakly justified based on the publicly available materials.

The strongest prospects are for reactivation / restoration of the license.

The prospects are significantly weaker for large damages claims.

The decisive documents remain:


  • the purchase confirmation;
  • the exact v14 EULA;
  • the activation history;
  • and proof that no license misuse or unsupported transfer occurred.
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I may be mistaken, but, I think this post is one that finally exceed my screeds/mega-long posts. Happy to see that occurrence.

Hopefully, this one doesn't negate.

I did read it all, word for word.

Some thoughts, in no particular order of importance:

Stellar customer service should trump technicalities.

Scaring off future prospective customers can be scary, disheartening, soul-crushing even for existing customers who want to evangelize or champion the product separately from or jointly with the company.

Situations like this justify my own tortured, years-running indecisiveness about the legal entity formation structure attributes of an company I want to run. Regular C Corp and Sole Prop and LLC are no-go. CA Special Purpose Corp and CA Public Benefit Corp also are no-gos.

My own stressful agony revolves around ADA Title III, W3C/WCAG and my use of old Lotus 1-2-3, Word Pro, and Lotus Approach. My target audience is specifically ardent, staunch, stubborn, unrepentantly proud continuous users of Lotus SmartSuite Millennium Edition. I could care less that that TAM may be only 5,000 still-alive people. THEY will be my community of interest.

Lotus SmartSuite 98 Millennium Edition is old, anchient, unsupported, non-WCAG- compliant, and abandonware. I've been using it since ~1996, and starting in 2017 or so, I found some plugins that gave LSS98ME a whole new life, especially related to conditional formatting, which was not native to 1-2-3 or had to be applied via LotusScript

Strangely, unlike its competitors, Lotus Development Corporation never made any of the SmartSuite productivity apps require activation or registration keys. There existed various contract forms, EULAs, and so on. Lotus Notes, Lotus Domino, and maybe other big-ticket things did, and required users to enroll in a Passport Advantage program, and pay per-incident for by-phone and other support.

I temped twice at Lotus cc: Mail division in 15 and 96, once for about a week, then asked to return. The 2nd assignment lasted 11 mos. My manager snd his signed me out Lotus SmartSuite for Windows 3.1 and for O/S 2. He did it because I was trying to write naval fiction tracking 300+ fictional sailors in a word processor. So he exposed me to Lotus Approach, even those he as a rogue kept using Borland Paradox DOS then GUI. The choices people make cannchange another's life. He changed mine by motivating me to learn abot Codd/Date. I bought hundreds of dollars of books. That made me desktop, data entey, database, spreadsheet, and tech support capable and years later enabled me to survive some M&A related merger and purge while an IT dept got wiped out at a real estate office where I worked in 2004. But, in 96 or so, Lotus' Passport Advantage crushed my soul when I heard a guy on speakerphone begging and crying for tech support, pleading that he'd convinced his boss to put the company on Lotus products, that he'd be fired dince his personal credit card lacked the fees wanted by cc: Mail. One temp on tech support sneered as people gathered around the speakerphone. I vowed I'd never be like that.

Whew ..

I'm so happy that there is no phone-home mechanism that was needed to actually USE Lotus SmartSuite. Hence, we lovers of it can use it til we die, seemingly, as IBM made it abandonware and even dumped to the public a 1 or 2 GB cache of stuff to enable self support post final cutoff in March or so of 2017 after over a decade of SmartSuite being in "maintenance mode".

Considering all the money IBM had, and that it really only cared about acquiring Lotus Notes, Lotus Domino, and some things not relying upon SmartSuite, I was crushed that IBM didn't just unwind its 1996 or so acquisition of Lotus Development Corp, hand it around $300mm cash to sustain itself, and take a minority stake in it, but otherwise be totally hands off. I posit that LDC might still be a viable ongoing company — barring MS FUD and ruthless anticompetitive behavior particularly towards LDC. HCL Technologies got Lotus Notes and Lotus Domino, and ecolved LotusScript 3.1 beyond and made LS 3.1 not backwards compatible. SmartSuite became abandonware, but copyright still applies even tho the patents surely are expired. (HCL used to be a key MS partner way back, but maybe got dumped or license-expired out, then the IBM/Lotus thing emerged, and HCL to a leap.)

So, if I sell my 1-2-3-centric spreadsheets and not personally redistribute the LDC apps, I STILL can be sued despite all the excellent advice GPT-5 Mini gave me. W3C may not be a DOJ or lawmaking entity, but its WCAG do-good words ARE interpreted by courts in the US, The EU, South Korea, and elsewhere, and bloodthirsty lawyers and never-real-users who discover my spreadsheets could still legally due to Congress being lazy or bought off could still bushwhacker pummel me to death in the biz and corporeal sense by suing me for $75k first offense. Congress hasn't gotten around to eliminating the immediate lawsuit with no chance to remedy situation. Imagine 1,000 lawyers recruiting 1,000 grieving discounted non-users in stagfer formation suing me at $75k each, before even settlement. It's a stupidly cruel, soul shatteringly predator world or abattoir, Earth.

So, I'd have to use disclaimers, fitness, limitations, and numerous othet steps plus on-by-one signed agreements as to the aforementioned limitations to limit risk to me.

It feels as if WCAG is writtent to utterly destroy "obsolete" software innthe name of inclusivity. That, to me, is a US 1A affront and assault because private groups couldnstill potentially be sued if the entity some how begins to look like a public access service. It's utterly effing enraging, mean-spirited, not well thought out, and more, I told myself over the recent agonizing months (and having not yet met eith a real lawyer).

I will likely form as a California Statutory Close Corporate of one owner/shareholder/employee, and own all 35 shares, leaving no room for merger or acquisition or dissenting voices. If some how an M&A offer arrives, I'll reject it and if interested, offer a spin off or spin out new entity that sublicenses my hobby content like my CA SCC will, but, no PEF or others would get rights into my hobby. It's agonizing to have to ponder bazillions of steps just to not lose control of one's own creations when someone dangles money and you've got bills to pay and payroll to sustain.

I am touched that MPS contributed effort to try to obtsin resolution. The presentation yet again shows me that despite my issues toward OpenAI, I got more satisfying information from it than from Google Search Assist, both via DuckDuckGo. GSA would give mostly answers that left me bereft and pondeing life's meaning when being creative and not setting out to HURT anyone still is perceived as hurting by not overtly including them even tho they have far better viable alternatives than my offerings.

Fortunately, CAD apps and CAD files, online games, and certain others are (for now) not ensnared in WCAG. I'm not anti-disabled, so, nonone go there, please. I will provide assistance in the form of details on making licensed derivative works, but not person-specific assist of my 1-2-3 and CAD files.) I want to sell my CAD drawings made in SharkCAD and want to champion for SharkCAD. So, I hope the Company can resolve/deconflict the matter of licensing and licensing support from product features, training, patches, bugs, etc. Maybe, make it like a lost access card — if you lose it, pay the $15 to get a new one. Affordable. If you possess it, but it is bad, they just reprogram it or replace it if you didn't de-mag or ruin it on purpose.

All the above and above made me wonder if spinning out or spinning off PunchCAD/SharkCAD is viable and worth it to keep users and developers happy.

Life need not be so complicated.
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