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ctkjose  
#1 Posted : Thursday, January 16, 2025 10:30:06 AM(UTC)
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Hi I was looking into upgrading to VC Pro 15 from pro 14, but I think some of the features of V14 were moved to Shark 15.

I was looking in https://docs.imsidesign.com for V15 docs to compare the features but I can't find the V15 docs.

For example:

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#2 Posted : Thursday, January 16, 2025 1:32:27 PM(UTC)
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#3 Posted : Sunday, January 19, 2025 5:59:30 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: UGMENTALCASE Go to Quoted Post
https://www.punchcad.com/product-line-comparison


I was looking for something more detailed like release notes and a user manual.

it looks like my confusion was their youtube videos and emails.
https://www.youtube.com/@punchcad2273/videos

Thankfully somebody made the correction in the comments...

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#4 Posted : Thursday, January 23, 2025 11:10:37 AM(UTC)
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SharkCAD V15 has received a new user manual.
OS: Windows 10 | CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 | RAM: 32 GB | Graphic: AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 | SharkCAD 15 Pro | Unit: mm
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#5 Posted : Thursday, January 23, 2025 2:17:51 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: MPSchmied Go to Quoted Post
SharkCAD V15 has received a new user manual.


Is it permissively available as a PDF so that we "sitting on the fence" can read it and be motivated to upgrade?

If Tim's ok with it getting out into the wild, or if he himself makes it generally available, I'd be happy to read it.

The above being said, I'm still frustratingly awaiting the day when all the tool pallets are resizable so that long layer names starting with the same first 30 characters can be left/right scrolled to differentiate which layer I'm looking at.

I'm still awaiting the day when clicking on a layer name in the layer filter or the CE or other places will draw a soft link or line to the geometry associated with it.


I'm still waiting for the day when it's possible to open two drawings in the same instance of Shark or two instances of it and locally (as a registered, laying user) and drag and drop grafts/subsets of layers/brances between drawings so I can organize and repurpose my own drawings without having to import them and end up with innumerable top layers that have to be removed manually.

I'm still waiting for the day when in the CE and Layer manager it's possible to regex or basic search-like way enter characters I think are in the names of layers I'm hunting or wanting to reorg, and they highlight and can be dragged en mass into a new arrangement.

I'm still waiting for the day it's possible to drag and drop geometry between files with or without their original layer names, but retain the associated foundational curves.

I'm still waiting for the day that Shark stops down-zooming my geometry when I menu/keyboard-shortcut switch between files, causing me to scream and curse the gods why this bizarre behavior needs to exist or wven got out of usability studies, wasting time and getting in the way of toggling between two files being compared.

I'm still waiting for the day when Shark srops collapsing all my layers in two open files solely because I toggled between them, and while mot only dealing with the app doen-zooming my views, I have to also battle with the app forcing be to become lost in where I was, scroll up and down the tree, and click on any one of many similarly-named branches, adding dozens of seconds to what should or could be 2 seconds per action.

I'm still waiting for the app to not scale and blow apart my arcs on propeller blades because I drag them from X=0m to X=150m, because for some reason I haven't figured out, the origin of the app and geometry seem to impose on the connectedness of the geometry.

I'm still waiting for the day when Shark will allow the user to manually reorg layers any way imaginable other than in a crazy circular reference or Mobius strip situation.

I'm still waiting for the day when the Layer Manager and Concept Explorer can be linked so that when the user has a hopelessly deep layer structure, a sort sub-task of pallet tear-off can temporarily hide/simplify the amount of digging, scrolling, and mental reorientation the user experiences.

I'm still waiting for the day the user can use geometry to instantiate a BOM that can be expanded by drafging new geometry or the branch of a nested layer over the BOM to reorganize the BOM, sort of like any vendor of choice spreadsheet or database app allows crosstab-like data reorg.

If all those kinds of severe irritations are resolved, that would make leaping to v15 all the more tantalizing.

The above graphical behavior has been dogging, hobbling, frustrating me as far back as v7 and year 2008.


If I could program, were charismatic, and won a Mega or Powerball, I could and would assemble a team and upend the world of CAD to get into the world of complex, crazy drawing detail, and of course still offer stand-alone versions of it. But, it can't program, and don't have hundreds of millions of dollars.

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#6 Posted : Thursday, January 23, 2025 9:14:04 PM(UTC)
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I use 3 tools to help me manage the layers in viacad more efficiently.

It looks like you do a lot larger projects than I do so you probably already know these tricks, but maybe it will help.

I only use concept explorer because it is resizable. I rarely ever use the inspector for layers.

Two of my favorite tools are "Change selected objects to Layer" and "Select objects in Layer".
When I import a drawing, I simply select the objects in that drawing, find the layer I want to put them on, right click on that layers name and hit "Change selected objects to Layer".
If you want to change all of the objects on certain layers to different layers, you can right click on those layers, select the objects in those layers holding down shift to select the objects on multiple layers. Find the layer you want to move those objects to, right click, and "Change selected objects to Layer.". Do this same trick to move to a new layer. Just create the new layer first then change the objects layer.
Another trick I do is right click on a layer's color and change the color to a custom color. That will change all of the objects in that layer to that color allowing me to see what objects are on that layer exactly. This helps me easily recognize what objects are on what layers. Once I'm done sorting through the layers, I can right click on the color and remove the layer's color if I want.
When I have a maze of layers, sometimes I collapse all of the layers to quickly navigate through the branches.
My final trick is to number the layers. I can put a number on a top level layer before I create it's sub layers. I leave that number on all the sub layers even if I rename them. In this way, I can easily determine what branch the sub layer belongs to by its number. This trick really helps in the inspector where the names get cut off.
A final help is that concept explorer tells us how many objects are on each layer. This helps me know when I've emptied the layer completely in case I want to delete that layer.
Hope this helps.

Sam
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#7 Posted : Thursday, January 23, 2025 9:35:38 PM(UTC)
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Something I just realized. You can right click on an object, click on layer to see what layer it is on, and change it's layer with a click.
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24c  
#8 Posted : Sunday, January 26, 2025 3:02:32 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: creativecad Go to Quoted Post
...You can right click on an object, click on layer to see what layer it is on, and change its layer with a click.


Use that one a lot, and much quicker to go from this to >...More, and add a new layer, that I rename later, as well as >Create Group from selected entities, as I find it useful when extruding profiles.

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