logo
NOTICE:  This is the new PunchCAD forum. You should have received an email with your new password around August 27, 2014. If you did not, or would like it reset, simply use the Lost Password feature, and enter Answer as the security answer.
Welcome Guest! To enable all features please Login or Register.

Notification

Icon
Error

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
CNC_Kid  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, May 16, 2023 11:57:25 AM(UTC)
CNC_Kid

Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 1/14/2014(UTC)
Posts: 120

Thanks: 2 times
Was thanked: 25 time(s) in 23 post(s)
can someone convert this for me, I need to do solid model work but cannot convert it.

File Attachment(s):
4x4_Post_Sleeve_Skirt_v6 - Copy.zip (11kb) downloaded 26 time(s).

You cannot view/download attachments. Try to login or register.
VCpro v11-1417
Win10Pro 32GB
Xeon E3-1270-v3 3.5GHz
Asrock Extreme 9ac
Samsung SSD RAID5
nvidia GTX760
thanks 1 user thanked CNC_Kid for this useful post.
specktech on 5/16/2023(UTC)
24c  
#2 Posted : Tuesday, May 16, 2023 1:47:15 PM(UTC)
24c

Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 7/27/2015(UTC)
Posts: 264
United Kingdom

Thanks: 34 times
Was thanked: 50 time(s) in 37 post(s)
@CNC_Kid,

I don't have any specific software to do this, but just had a go at redrawing it, essentially extruding polygons placed on the outer surface, then filleting and applying a radius over the exterior mesh.
I haven't done the inside, but if you change the transparency or colours, you should be able to draw polygons and extrude, then subtract to get a final solid.

I don't know if it'll help, but I'll upload the file, so you can see what I did.

Mike

Edited by user Tuesday, May 16, 2023 1:48:12 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

File Attachment(s):
solid-conversion.sfx (281kb) downloaded 6 time(s).

You cannot view/download attachments. Try to login or register.
macOS 14.3.1 (Sonoma) - MacBook M1 Max 64GB 2TB SSD & external display - SharkCAD Pro v14.1.0 build 1654
thanks 1 user thanked 24c for this useful post.
specktech on 5/16/2023(UTC)
murrayagain  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 16, 2023 4:15:47 PM(UTC)
murrayagain

Rank: Guest

Joined: 2/13/2023(UTC)
Posts: 23

Was thanked: 16 time(s) in 8 post(s)
It has fewer than 400 facets, select it and right-click, change object type to faces and convert with stitch-to- solid tool in Solid Utilities, enclosing all of the faces with a selection fence. If you've got more than 3K faces, use mesh booleans to edit .stls and .objs, they work much the same as solid booleans, shelling and blending aside. You can use mesh booleans for mesh objects with fewer than 3K facets too, of course, but you have the option to convert them to solid as well. PowerPack can convert objects >3K facets to solid with convert to analytics by recognising mesh regions that represent planar n-gons, conical, cylindrical and ellipsoid sections.

Edited by user Tuesday, May 16, 2023 4:54:34 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

thanks 1 user thanked murrayagain for this useful post.
specktech on 5/16/2023(UTC)
a.wieneke  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2023 8:58:46 AM(UTC)
a.wieneke

Rank: Member

Joined: 10/10/2014(UTC)
Posts: 50
Man
Germany
Location: Köln ( Cologne )

Thanks: 16 times
Was thanked: 4 time(s) in 4 post(s)
Originally Posted by: CNC_Kid Go to Quoted Post
can someone convert this for me, I need to do solid model work but cannot convert it.



powerpack > mesh to analytic >

here it is

Edited by user Wednesday, May 17, 2023 9:01:29 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

File Attachment(s):
solid.sfx (201kb) downloaded 9 time(s).
solid.sfx.zip (435kb) downloaded 5 time(s).
solidVC5.sfx.zip (457kb) downloaded 6 time(s).

You cannot view/download attachments. Try to login or register.
viele Grüße
Andreas

http://www.wieneke.biz
SharkCad pro 14
OS X 14.0
CNC_Kid  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2023 1:12:56 PM(UTC)
CNC_Kid

Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 1/14/2014(UTC)
Posts: 120

Thanks: 2 times
Was thanked: 25 time(s) in 23 post(s)
I thought I did a reply. SFX files won't open in my VC Pro v11.
I see the object in preview when doing a File - Open, but I get this when opening.

I will also try post #3.

error

Edited by user Wednesday, May 17, 2023 1:14:57 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

VCpro v11-1417
Win10Pro 32GB
Xeon E3-1270-v3 3.5GHz
Asrock Extreme 9ac
Samsung SSD RAID5
nvidia GTX760
24c  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2023 1:40:43 PM(UTC)
24c

Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 7/27/2015(UTC)
Posts: 264
United Kingdom

Thanks: 34 times
Was thanked: 50 time(s) in 37 post(s)
@CNC_Kid

I took @a.wieneke file, and opened it, then export as a SAT file, which you should be able to import/open ok

Mike
PS had to zip it as forum don't accept .sat files

Edited by user Wednesday, May 17, 2023 1:42:57 PM(UTC)  | Reason: PS

File Attachment(s):
solid-2.sat.zip (208kb) downloaded 2 time(s).

You cannot view/download attachments. Try to login or register.
macOS 14.3.1 (Sonoma) - MacBook M1 Max 64GB 2TB SSD & external display - SharkCAD Pro v14.1.0 build 1654
CNC_Kid  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2023 2:42:13 PM(UTC)
CNC_Kid

Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 1/14/2014(UTC)
Posts: 120

Thanks: 2 times
Was thanked: 25 time(s) in 23 post(s)
So I open the sat file, says it's a solid. I create a surface for slicing, using Split Solid Using Surface I get this error.


error
VCpro v11-1417
Win10Pro 32GB
Xeon E3-1270-v3 3.5GHz
Asrock Extreme 9ac
Samsung SSD RAID5
nvidia GTX760
CNC_Kid  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2023 2:45:22 PM(UTC)
CNC_Kid

Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 1/14/2014(UTC)
Posts: 120

Thanks: 2 times
Was thanked: 25 time(s) in 23 post(s)
Originally Posted by: 24c Go to Quoted Post
@CNC_Kid

I took @a.wieneke file, and opened it, then export as a SAT file, which you should be able to import/open ok

Mike
PS had to zip it as forum don't accept .sat files


Nope, direct download of SFX and the Zip, opening SFX throws that error.
VCpro v11-1417
Win10Pro 32GB
Xeon E3-1270-v3 3.5GHz
Asrock Extreme 9ac
Samsung SSD RAID5
nvidia GTX760
24c  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2023 3:12:22 PM(UTC)
24c

Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 7/27/2015(UTC)
Posts: 264
United Kingdom

Thanks: 34 times
Was thanked: 50 time(s) in 37 post(s)
@CNC_Kid,

...and I had the same problem when I converted it using the Solid Utilities or PowerPack Mesh to Analytics options.
I never understand why if I have cylindrical parameters set, I see meshing like facets to the filleted surfaces.

This is why I attempted to redraw using polygons and extrude etc to mimic your part, but one of my radii was wrong.
However, this approach does allow for a "genuine" solid you can slice through.

Maybe you could slice the original mesh midway and trace the profile and extrude this?

Mike



macOS 14.3.1 (Sonoma) - MacBook M1 Max 64GB 2TB SSD & external display - SharkCAD Pro v14.1.0 build 1654
24c  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2023 3:23:45 PM(UTC)
24c

Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 7/27/2015(UTC)
Posts: 264
United Kingdom

Thanks: 34 times
Was thanked: 50 time(s) in 37 post(s)
@CNC_Kid,

What you can do is create a Mesh Block and subtract this from your original STL, then definitely trace the profile to make an extrusion that you can chase around a polygon.
Screenshots to give you an idea.
Maybe this will help you?

Mike

Edited by user Wednesday, May 17, 2023 3:26:18 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

File Attachment(s):
Mesh-Block.png (1,029kb) downloaded 3 time(s).
Subtract-Mesh.png (1,060kb) downloaded 4 time(s).

You cannot view/download attachments. Try to login or register.
macOS 14.3.1 (Sonoma) - MacBook M1 Max 64GB 2TB SSD & external display - SharkCAD Pro v14.1.0 build 1654
24c  
#11 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2023 3:43:17 PM(UTC)
24c

Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 7/27/2015(UTC)
Posts: 264
United Kingdom

Thanks: 34 times
Was thanked: 50 time(s) in 37 post(s)
@CNC_Kid,

...so using mesh solid tool to create a cuboid and subtract that from your original STL, allowed me to create a profile to extrude in polygon path, and this creates a solid.

Hope you get the idea
Mike

Edited by user Wednesday, May 17, 2023 3:46:41 PM(UTC)  | Reason: add UPDATE

File Attachment(s):
stl-split-to-solid.sat.zip (14kb) downloaded 2 time(s).
stl-split-selected-v11.sfx (220kb) downloaded 3 time(s).
24c attached the following image(s):
solid-profile-to-extrude.png (403kb) downloaded 0 time(s).

You cannot view/download attachments. Try to login or register.
macOS 14.3.1 (Sonoma) - MacBook M1 Max 64GB 2TB SSD & external display - SharkCAD Pro v14.1.0 build 1654
MPSchmied  
#12 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2023 4:06:19 PM(UTC)
MPSchmied

Rank: Guest

Joined: 4/9/2017(UTC)
Posts: 510
Man
Germany

Thanks: 278 times
Was thanked: 138 time(s) in 106 post(s)
The simplest way to convert this polygon mesh into a solid body should be the good old Subdivision to Nurbs method. I tested it with Version 9 build 1162, but it failed.
OS: Windows 10 | CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 | RAM: 32 GB | Graphic: AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 | Shark FX 9 Build 1162 | Unit: mm
24c  
#13 Posted : Thursday, May 18, 2023 2:17:07 AM(UTC)
24c

Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 7/27/2015(UTC)
Posts: 264
United Kingdom

Thanks: 34 times
Was thanked: 50 time(s) in 37 post(s)
@MPSchmeid >>The simplest way to convert this polygon mesh into a solid body should be the good old Subdivision to Nurbs method.

Agreed, I miss that, but on my old i7 processor, that used to take a long time. I bought a 3D scanner years ago, and used to try and convert STLs then, with mixed results.
I wonder if we will ever see this again, or is it a licensing issue?
I did test the OP's file and it did say it had non-manifold edges, which might cause errors.

Mike
macOS 14.3.1 (Sonoma) - MacBook M1 Max 64GB 2TB SSD & external display - SharkCAD Pro v14.1.0 build 1654
a.wieneke  
#14 Posted : Thursday, May 18, 2023 3:11:13 AM(UTC)
a.wieneke

Rank: Member

Joined: 10/10/2014(UTC)
Posts: 50
Man
Germany
Location: Köln ( Cologne )

Thanks: 16 times
Was thanked: 4 time(s) in 4 post(s)
Originally Posted by: CNC_Kid Go to Quoted Post
I thought I did a reply. SFX files won't open in my VC Pro v11.
I see the object in preview when doing a File - Open, but I get this when opening.

I will also try post #3.

error




It is realy "funny", with the "solid" i can use : Add Solid and it works, but i can not use Subtract Solid and CutOut Solid is also not working. Wondering why add solid is working , also the blend tool.
viele Grüße
Andreas

http://www.wieneke.biz
SharkCad pro 14
OS X 14.0
specktech  
#15 Posted : Sunday, August 6, 2023 2:44:01 AM(UTC)
specktech

Rank: Guest

Joined: 4/20/2021(UTC)
Posts: 103

Thanks: 529 times
Was thanked: 29 time(s) in 25 post(s)
Did you ever get your 4x4 post trim piece dialed in. I had fun recreating it. I chopped the profile and then I extruded it into the exact dimensions. I can send the files if you ever want them. It was a fun litle project. Have fun CNC kid.
File Attachment(s):
7-15-2023 Mesh to Solid CNC kid project 4x4 trim model.vcp (984kb) downloaded 11 time(s).
7-15-2023 Mesh to Solid CNC kid project 4x4 trim model A3.vcp (840kb) downloaded 9 time(s).

You cannot view/download attachments. Try to login or register.
thanks 1 user thanked specktech for this useful post.
MPSchmied on 8/6/2023(UTC)
CNC_Kid  
#16 Posted : Monday, August 28, 2023 10:41:55 AM(UTC)
CNC_Kid

Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 1/14/2014(UTC)
Posts: 120

Thanks: 2 times
Was thanked: 25 time(s) in 23 post(s)
I never did anything with it. Need to re-read last few posts and try again.
VCpro v11-1417
Win10Pro 32GB
Xeon E3-1270-v3 3.5GHz
Asrock Extreme 9ac
Samsung SSD RAID5
nvidia GTX760
Users browsing this topic
Guest (3)
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.