Finally I feel I am getting ViaCAD under control. Using it everyday for about a month, Reading the manual, And watching every video out there. It's all really starting to click for me. I also realize this is a very high level cad program. It does take a little time to get it all dialed in. Thank you Tim Olson for making this amazing program. When I use ViaCAD, I can tell that a lot of thought went into creating this program. Big smiles PunchCad.