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                There probably is a way, but I just can't seem to work it out. In Solidworks, one of the nicest features is simply being able to highlight any surface, and start sketching on that surface. Every time I try to do this in VC, even if I use the C key, I get unpredictable results. How can I get VC to behave in this way?
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
            
        
            
            
    
        
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                You have to project the sketch onto the surface.
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
    
        
            
            
    
        
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                As in "project curve surface"? 
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
            
        
            
            
    
        
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                Yes, just as before. Works great with curves, but not lines (a square).
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
    
        
            
            
    
        
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                Originally Posted by: ttrw  ...Works great with curves, but not lines (a square).
Would that have been a Smart Polygon?
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                Ah! Good point! :D Probably (knowing me- and still with toothache :( )
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
    
        
            
            
    
        
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                Hooray! It worked! 
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
            
        
            
            
    
        
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                edit,
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
    
        
            
            
    
        
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                I think that being able to direct the projection vector after sketching on a normal viewpoint is simpler and more versatile than sketching onto irregular topography, but inconsistency from object to object is irritating.
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
            
        
            
            
    
        
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                Yes, this inconsistency is something that is really pissing me off right now. Sometimes it works as expected, other time punching in random coordinates with the mouse, does the same thing, other times doesn't. The help menu is also too sparse to make any sense (well to me, perhaps not manual gurus such as billbedford.....:rolleyes:) :mad:
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
    
        
            
            
    
        
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                Originally Posted by: ttrw  Yes, this inconsistency is something that is really pissing me off right now.
Hi Tom,
What inconsistency, have you some examples?
The only tool I see at the moment is in the Pro (and shark) version, that is the "Spline on surface" (I have not checked Shark to look for other tools)
- Steve
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
            
        
            
            
    
        
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                Perhaps inconsistency isn't quite the right word? The 
project curve surface  tool works in a very specific way, however, this way doesn't come across to me, as one would expect. I suppose what I mean, that I would like the tool to be logical in its operation, but imho, it isn't. What I really want is for someone to show me how to use the 
project curve surface  tool. The correct way of using it, as the manual (or internal help file) isn't exactly clear. 
It's also difficult to show an example, but here is one at least, using the "
select objects  in workplane" tool.
ttrw attached the following image(s):
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                Hi Tom,
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
            
        
            
            
    
        
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                When I get some time, I'll experiment more. I just don't have time right now to fiddle around.
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
    
        
            
            
    
        
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                Hi Tom,
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
            
        
            
            
    
        
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                Hey Steve, you're a star.
I apologise for being someone who needs to have demonstrations when it comes to using software. I'm not the only person, I've met hundreds just like me, except I ask a lot of questions- and they don't, and consequently, give up! 
When I did my degree, I became very self-conscious about this, as I asked many many questions, often asking for examples, and vowed to stop, but then my colleagues all praised me for doing this, because they weren't the type who would do that, and as a result, thanked me, because they learnt more. Much more. :)
You may find it interesting that my father was the person who inspired me to ask questions. He went to Cambridge University here in England, to study mathematics. He's now a fairly famous (within the academic mathematical circle) geometric topologist! 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topology .
Asking questions is a good thing. Getting answers, is brilliant! :D
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
    
        
            
            
    
        
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                Hi Tom,
The first vid is just drawing on a moved workplane (for drawing on a planer surface)
Download link The second is the "project curve surface" tool
Download link Let me know if anything is not clear. The only bad question is the one not asked.(who said that)
This is a bit of experiment with 4shared.(Note, these are xvid again)
I have edited and made direct downloads
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
            
        
            
            
    
        
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                Cheers Steve :) 
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
    
        
            
            
    
        
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                Steve, that was GREAT! A couple of weeks ago I tried "writing" text along a convex curved surface. My efforts failed miserably. Later, i think i wrote the text "in space" and moved it and then tried to project it. Now i am thinking back to A La Mouche's (spelling?) issue, where someone suggested changing the line types of the extruded text.
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
            
        
            
            
    
        
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                Originally Posted by: ttrw  Cheers Steve :) 
Hi Tom,
Your welcome.
I would like to see an option for the "project curve surface" tool, to be able to project from view. It could save problems related to incorrect projection direction when selecting the 2 points.
Also a note. When making the 2 point projection direction, ensure the "snap to workplane" is disabled, or the results can be quite unexpected.
- Steve
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
    
                           
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