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                Tim did a really helpful PDF with regard surfacing about 18 months ago
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
            
        
            
            
    
        
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                Hi jol,
jol wrote: Tim did a really helpful PDF with regard surfacing about 18 months ago
If that is still available, then I am certainly interest.
I am finding it strange at the moment with the surfacing, really due to some of the popups for failure. But will continue on.
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
    
        
            
            
    
        
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                I'm sure we can find it between us !
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
            
        
            
            
    
        
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                jol wrote: I'm sure we can find it between us !
Thanks,
jol wrote: Yep "U's and V's are in the same or opposite directions"
That I see (at the moment) mainly from imported data and just a need to change the line type.
I will take note of the other popups if/when I get them again.
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
    
        
            
            
    
        
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                jol wrote: I'm sure we can find it between us !
LOL!!
UVW is the same as XYZ (apparently). It confuses the hell out of me too! Engineering based designers tend to think in XYZ and 3D modellers in UVW. I think in Shark's desperation to find a common ground (about 50/50 'engineer desigers' to 'modellers', sound about right?), both units seem to look if they have been adopted :eek: (I'm probably talking a lot of nonsense again here!! ;) )
Personally I much prefer X,Y and Z. X being side to side, Y up and down and Z , front to back (depth), but until that axis in VC is updated (fattened up and increase in font size), I'm not too sure which way up or down I go half the time! :p :D
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
            
        
            
            
    
        
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                I am surprised that there has been little discussion on surfacing. 
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
    
        
            
            
    
        
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                Steve, this forum isn't that old you know (2007?). If you want to do some surface modelling, and then get back to the forum, with your results, I'm sure you could start thread aplenty. :D 
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
            
        
            
            
    
        
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                ttrw wrote: Steve, this forum isn't that old you know (2007?).
About 16 months.
I am curious, if possible, to see a reply to the this thread  
http://forum.punchcad.com/showthread.php?t=471  (post 2) as I see the same problem with Viacad (but not in other apps I use)
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                16 months? I said it was young :)
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
            
        
            
            
    
        
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                Hi Tom,
ttrw wrote: I'm sure Tim is aware of your concerns as we speak,
I was curious of the problem (on that thread), and the fact there has been no reponse after such a long time. I do see the same problem from the model posted, but in another nurbs package the sweep is made without error. 
I have made a number of sweeps now myself with similar shape without problems in Viacad, so am thinking Viacad is probably just reacting to the amount of control points at the end of the wing tip on that model posted.
ttrw wrote: but perhaps you could post your findings in the beta thread too?
I am not using a beta build, I have been looking at Viacad6 and Viacad pro. (I was going to look at shark, but the download was very slow, so will look at that another time.
Should posts concerning full release still be directed to the beta thread?
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- Steve
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
    
        
            
            
    
        
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                Steve,
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
            
        
            
            
    
        
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                Hi Tom,
ttrw wrote: .......but he's doing a grand job, so give him credit.
No problem from me.
I can now actually make a post/reply to that thread myself.
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                Pretty sure that UVW coordinates are specifically used to map 2D textures to 3D surfaces, or to directly create 3d texture on a surface,  the surfaces created in XYZ coordinates (though some applications may use UVW coordinates for surface creation). Both UVW and XYZ are orthogonal coordinate systems, so the designations are really just to differentiate purpose, and have achieved convention for that purpose.
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
            
        
            
            
    
        
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                I want to know .. practically .. specifically .. what is going wrong with my surface when my computer tells me "the U's and V's are in the same or opposite directions"
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
    
        
            
            
    
        
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                Jol,
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
            
        
            
            
    
        
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                jol wrote: To me, it is absolute gobblydigook !! 
To me too.
JL
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
    
        
            
            
    
        
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                From the original model posted, the only problem was the fact that the end points on the intersecting curves where not actually connecting (0.001/0.002 out of position), once those where aligned then I did not receive the UV error.
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
    
                           
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