Punch! CAD 
 »  
ViaCAD & Shark 
 »  
Surface Modeling 
 »  
Wing/Fuselage fillets problems (#5158) 
 
            
            
    
        
Rank: Junior Member
Joined: 4/7/2007(UTC)
 
     
    
        
            
	      
                For literally YEARS now, I have been trying to make decent 'expanding radius' fillets (like those on the Supermarine Spitfire) on wing/fuselage junctions for both full-size and model airplanes.  I have tried every trick that I can think of without success.  So, I thought I'd throw it out to the general audience in hope that someone can show me how.
Attached is a file for a new Q-40 model race plane (AMA event #422).  It is loosely based on the AR-6 "Endeavor" Formula One race plane at Reno, but the model is "cartoon scale" to meet the event requirements.  It is the intent to use a 3D CNC mill to cut out the male plug from REN board and then pull molds off of that.  The wing and horizontal tail plugs have already been cut but I need to finish the fuselage.  The fuselage plug should have the wing saddle removed, and the fillets added.
Any thoughts or help would be appreciated.
gsjames attached the following image(s):
 Tall Tail AR-6.jpg 
(25kb) downloaded 15  time(s). You cannot  view/download attachments. Try to login or register.
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
            
        
            
            
    
        
Rank: Junior Member
Joined: 4/7/2007(UTC)
 
     
    
        
            
	      
                The upload file function is failing.  I will continue to try to upload it.
            
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
    
        
            
            
    
        
Rank: Senior Member
Joined: 2/2/2007(UTC)
Posts: 5,450
Was thanked: 508 time(s) in 354 post(s)
 
     
    
        
            
	      
                Hi Gary
    Tim Olson 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
            
        
            
            
    
        
Rank: Junior Member
Joined: 9/30/2009(UTC)
Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)
 
     
    
        
            
	      
                2 Rail Sweep ?This is the technique 
Marek Rys  used a few years ago when he was using Rhino. Its a Hawker Hurricane who's fillet is much smaller than the Spitfire but the principle is the same.
Edited by moderator  Thursday, August 28, 2014 5:21:00 PM(UTC) 
 | Reason: Not specified 
kevjon attached the following image(s):
 Hurricane_tut_6last.jpg 
(46kb) downloaded 12  time(s).  Hurricane_tut_10last.jpg 
(45kb) downloaded 10  time(s).  Hurricane_tut_11alast.jpg 
(67kb) downloaded 8  time(s). You cannot  view/download attachments. Try to login or register.
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
    
        
            
            
    
        
Rank: Junior Member
Joined: 4/7/2007(UTC)
 
     
    
        
            
	      
                Originally Posted by: Tim Olson  Hi Gary
Tim:  I tried that too, and it still didn't work.  Obviously I am doing something stupid.  It's not a big file.  I emailed it to your evo-soft address, perhaps you can figure out how to upload it.
On a personal note old friend, my wife and I are building a new house near Lake Weatherford, and it turns out that we are building just across the street from John Bruce and wife.  What a small world to move, by chance, next to someone that we both worked with over 35 years ago...
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
            
        
            
            
    
        
Rank: Junior Member
Joined: 4/7/2007(UTC)
 
     
    
        
            
	      
                Originally Posted by: kevjon  2 Rail Sweep ?
Thanks Kevjon:  I've tried just about every variation of 2-rail sweep that I can think of but to no avail.  Perhaps my technique is just wrong.  I'll keep playing with it and try to upload it.
  
         
     
 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
    
        
            
            
    
        
Rank: Senior Member
Joined: 2/2/2007(UTC)
Posts: 5,450
Was thanked: 508 time(s) in 354 post(s)
 
     
    
        
            
	      
                Hi Gary
I was able to get a 0.2 (up to 0.5 in some areas) inch variable radius blend to work if I split off the trailing edge.  
The convexity and end capping in that area is too complex for ACIS to blend. At the split, I assigned a variable radius value of 0.01.
Since the variable radius tool only works on solid objects, you will need to boolean the fuselage surface to the wing to get a solid object.  Be sure to change direction of the surface to get the proper material direction.
I  like your use of polyconics, makes a nice fuselage!
*>>the street from John Bruce and wife.
Be sure to say hi to John from me!
Tim
Tim Olson attached the following image(s):
 trailingedge.jpg 
(21kb) downloaded 14  time(s).  leadingEdge.png 
(89kb) downloaded 18  time(s). You cannot  view/download attachments. Try to login or register.
    Tim Olson 
    
        
            
     
    
        
            
        
     
 
    
        
     
 
            
        
    
                           
Punch! CAD 
 »  
ViaCAD & Shark 
 »  
Surface Modeling 
 »  
Wing/Fuselage fillets problems (#5158) 
 
    
        Forum Jump
         
Punch! CAD 
  ViaCAD & Shark 
   - News and Announcements 
   - General 
   - 2D Drafting 
   - Surface Modeling 
   - Solid Modeling 
   - Subdivision Modeling 
   - Rendering & Display 
   - Import/Export 
   - Tips and Tutorials 
   - Suggestions 
   - Gallery 
   - PowerPack 
   - Punch Lounge 
 
    
    You cannot  post new topics in this forum.
cannot  reply to topics in this forum.
cannot  delete your posts in this forum.
cannot  edit your posts in this forum.
cannot  create polls in this forum.
cannot  vote in polls in this forum.